(NaturalNews) An open society is a free society, and the media's primary job in helping to maintain a free, open society is to shine the light of scrutiny on government. In doing so the media lives up to its (supposed) mantra of afflicting the comfortable and comforting the afflicted. The only thing that could possibly get in the way of that mission is, of course, the government, through one of its surrogates in the federal court system.
In an effort to shed some light on how the government interprets its own PATRIOT Act, New York Times reporter Charlie Savage filed suit against the federal government last fall to get some answers after a Freedom of Information request was shot down by the Justice Department, which said the interpretation was "classified."
His suit followed several earlier warnings by Democratic Sens. Mark Udall of Colorado and Ron Wyden of Oregon, members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, who said in a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder Jr. in September they believe the public has been misled about how the government is interpreting the law.
Too secret to disclose?
"We believe that the best way to avoid a negative public reaction and an erosion of confidence in U.S. intelligence agencies is to initiate an informed public debate about these authorities today," they wrote. "However, if the executive branch is unwilling to do that, then it is particularly important for government officials to avoid compounding that problem by making misleading statements."
Savage agrees, and tried to sue the government to get some answers. He believes - correctly - that the public should know what the enforcement parameters are for such a wide-ranging "terrorism" law.
But U.S. District Court William H. Pauley III disagrees, writing in a recent rejection of Savage's suit that the government's anti-terrorism efforts, which are supposedly authorized in the act, are too secret to disclose.
"Section 215 of the Patriot Act authorizes the Government to apply to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court for an order directing the production of 'any tangible things' for certain investigations," Pauley wrote in his dismissal. "The Government contends that its use of this authority is critical to countering national security threats. It represents that public disclosure of the Report would expose sensitive intelligence sources and methods to America's adversaries and therefore harm national security."
The old harm national security excuse again. Where have we heard that before?
Light burden of proof for Uncle Sam?
Savage, along with the American Civil Liberties Union, a co-plaintiff in the case, argued that Wyden and Udall have made statements on the public record contradicting the judge's finding. For instance, Savage - in a March 18 story - said that Udall and Wyden told him Americans would be "stunned" and "angry" to know just what Uncle Sam believes the PATRIOT Act actually authorizes the government to do.
"We would also note that in recent months we have grown increasingly skeptical about the actual value of the 'intelligence collection operation,'" the senators said, as reported by Savage. "This has come as a surprise to us, as we were initially inclined to take the executive branch's assertions about the importance of this 'operation' at face value."
Furthermore, Pauley doesn't believe the government's "burden of proof" is light, and that its claim of privilege under the law takes precedence to, say, the Constitution.
Extremely misleading
"This Court credits the government's assertion that disclosing this information could enable America's adversaries to develop means to degrade and evade the nation's foreign intelligence collection capabilities," Pauley wrote after examining Sect. 215 in private. "This Court's in camera review confirms that disclosing the Report would reveal and potentially compromise intelligence sources and methods."
In September, The New York Times reported that the senators criticized a Justice Department spokesman's statement saying "Section 215 is not a secret law, nor has it been implemented under secret legal opinions by the Justice Department."
Wyden and Udall said that characterization is "extremely misleading" because "there are secret legal opinions controlling how Patriot Act is being interpreted - it's just that they were issued by the national security court," the Times reported.
(NaturalNews) In a stunning and completely unannounced move, US Senator Rand Paul -- who many agree represents the best hope for the restoration of liberty in America -- has introduced an amendment to a key FDA funding bill that seeks to sharply rein in the FDA's power. It would disarm the FDA and make the agency stop using guns against the American people; it would halt the FDA's armed raids on raw milk farmers; it would also stop the FDA's outrageous and longstanding censorship of truthful health claims of dietary supplements and medicinal herbs.
This is a big deal. While it may not pass, given its sudden introduction and lack of enough time to build grassroots support, the very fact that U.S. Senator Rand Paul has introduced such an amendment is proof positive that Rand Paul is exactly the kind of leader that can help take our nation out of the age of government tyranny and censorship and into a new era of transparency, accountability and liberty. Ending the FDA's unconstitutional censorship of truthful health claims could, without question, help prevent disease and greatly reduce the out-of-control health care costs that are bankrupting America.
Here is the full text of the announcement from Sen. Rand Paul's website:
Sen. Rand Paul's press release
Today on the U.S. Senate floor, Sen. Rand Paul introduced an amendment to the Food and Drug Administration User Fee Reauthorization bill, which would curb the Food and Drug Associations overreach and abuse of power. Sen. Paul's amendment, No. 2143, would disarm the FDA, put an end to raids on natural food stores and Amish farmers, and stop FDA censorship of truthful claims of dietary supplements.
Below is the video and transcript of his speech, as well as top-line points and background information regarding Sen. Paul's amendment.
Watch a video of his speech at:
ACTION ITEM: Post your comments in support of this on YouTube! We need to hammer YouTube with positive comments from people demanding health freedom and the end of FDA tyranny.
TRANSCRIPT: President, today I'm offering an amendment to the FDA. I'm troubled by images of armed agents raiding Amish farms and preventing them selling milk directly from the cow. I think we have bigger problems in our country than sending armed FDA agents into peaceful farmers' land and telling them they can't sell milk directly from the cow.
My amendment has three parts. First, it attempts to stop the FDA's overzealous regulations of vitamins, food and supplements by codifying the first amendment prohibition on prior restraint. What do I mean by that?
The first amendment says you can't prevent speech, even commercial speech, in advance of the speech. You can't tell cheerios that they can't say there's a health benefit to their Cheerios. Under our current FDA laws, FDA says if you want to market prune juice, you can't say that it cures constipation.
You can't make a health claim about a food supplement or about a vitamin, you can do it about a pharmaceutical, but you're not allowed to do it about a health supplement.
I think this should change. There have been several court cases that show this goes against not only the spirit but the letter of the law of the First Amendment. So this amendment would change that.
This amendment would stop the FDA from censoring claims about curative, mitigative effects of dietary supplements. It would also stop the FDA from prohibiting distribution of scientific articles and publications regarding the role of nutrients in protecting against disease.
Despite four court orders condemning the practice as a violation of the First Amendment, the FDA continues to suppress consumers' right to be informed and to make informed choices by denying them this particular information. It's time for Congress to put an end to FDA censorship.
Second, my amendment would disarm the FDA.
Now, some of you might be surprised the FDA is armed. Well, you shouldn't be.
We have nearly 40 federal agencies that are armed. I'm not against having police, I'm not against the army, the military, the FBI, but I think bureaucrats don't need to be carrying weapons and I think what we ought to do, is if there is a need for an armed policeman to be there, the FBI who are trained to do this should do it. But I don't think it's a good idea to be arming bureaucrats to go on the farm to, with arms, to stop people from selling milk from a cow.
I think we have too many armed federal agencies, and that we need to put an end to this. Criminal law seems to be increasing, increasingly is using a tool of our government bureaucracy to punish and control honest businessmen for simply attempting to make a living.
Historically the criminal law was intended to punish only the most horrible offenses that everyone agreed were inherently wrong or evil, offenses like rape, murder, theft, arson - but now we've basically federalized thousands of activities and called them crimes.
If bureaucrats need to involve the police, let's have them use the FBI, but I see no reason to have the FDA carrying weapons.
Today the criminal law is used to punish behavior such as even fishing without a permit, packaging a product incorrectly or shipping something with an improper label.
Simply said, the federal government's gone too far.
The plain language of our Constitution specifies very few federal crimes. In fact, the Constitution originally only had four federal crimes and now we have thousands of federal crimes.
We've moved beyond the original intent of the Constitution. We don't even know or have a complete list of all the federal crimes. It's estimated there are over 4,000, but no one has an exact number.
Finally, my amendment will require adequate mens rea protection. In other words, when you have a crime, you're supposed to prove the intent. People have to have intended to harm someone, it can't be an honest mistake where a businessman or woman have broken a regulation and didn't intend to harm someone. If you want to convict someone of a crime and put them in jail, it should be a mens rea requirement.
This is something we have had for hundreds of years, it comes out of our common-law tradition.
This amendment would fix this problem by strengthening the mens rea component of each of the prohibited acts and the FDA acts by including the words "knowing" and "willful" before we address and accuse someone of a crime.
This I think would give protection to folks who are guilty of inadvertently guilty of breaking a regulation and would keep from overflowing our jails. We've got plenty of violent criminals without putting people in for honest breaches of regulations. If Congress is going to criminalize conduct at the federal level as it does with the FDA act, the least it can do have is have an adequate mens rea requirement. My amendment will attempt to do this.
It's not that we won't have rules at the federal level, but the rules ought to be reasonable. We ought to allow people to market vitamins. There's no earthly reason why somebody who markets prune juice can't advertise it helps with constipation.
We've gone too far, and we've abrogated the First Amendment and what we need to do is tell the FDA that the courts have ruled that the First Amendment does apply to commercial speech and the FDA has been overstepping their bounds.
TOP-LINE POINTS
Paul Amendment #2143 to S. 3187, the Prescription Drug User Fee Act
Part I: Health Freedom Act -
The amendment forces the FDA to at last comply with the commands of Congress, the First Amendment, numerous federal courts, and the American people by codifying the First Amendment prohibition on prior restraint.
Stops the FDA from censoring truthful claims about the curative, mitigative, or preventative effects of dietary supplements.
Stops the FDA from prohibiting the distribution of scientific articles and publications regarding the role of nutrients in protecting against disease.
Amends the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FFDCA) to deem a food to be misbranded only when its label includes a claim adjudicated to be false and/or misleading.
Part II: Prohibitions on FDA Officials Carrying Firearms and Making Arrests Without Warrants
This section disarms FDA agents (and any and all employees of HHS).
Background:
The plain language of our Constitution specifies a very limited number of federal crimes. These include treason,[1] counterfeiting,[2] piracy or felonies on the high seas,[3] and offenses against the laws of nations.[4]
Yet today, we have over 4,450 criminal offenses in our federal statutes alone. This number does not include the thousands of criminal offenses scattered throughout federal regulations.
In order to enforce all these crimes, we've armed our federal agencies, and there are now over 30 federal agencies that have employees authorized to carry firearms and use them.
This cycle of criminalizing everything at the federal level and then arming all of our federal agencies needs to stop.
Recent FDA armed raids of Amish dairy farmers selling "raw" milk directly from the cow present high-profile examples of why we need to have fewer armed federal agents (and fewer federal crimes).
Part III: Mens Rea Component/Reform -
This section amends the "Prohibited acts" section of the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act (21 USC SS 331) to strengthen the mens rea ("guilty mind") component of each of the prohibited acts. It adds the words "knowing and willful" to each of the prohibitions.
Background:
In 2010, the Heritage Foundation and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers conducted a study and issued a report regarding the problem of not only the massive proliferation of federal criminal law in general, but particularly the erosion of any meaningful mens rea ("guilty mind") component to these federal laws.
This report-Without Intent: How Congress Is Eroding the Criminal Intent Requirement in Federal Law-found that over 57% of the offenses considered by the 109th Congress alone contained inadequate mens rea requirements, putting the innocent at risk of criminal punishment. The study also discovered consistently poor legislative drafting and broad delegation of Congress's authority to make criminal laws to unelected officials in administrative agencies-"criminalization by regulation."
If Congress is going to criminalize conduct at the federal level as it does in the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, then the least it can do is include an adequate mens rea component.
The Supreme Court on Monday declined to consider the petition of Joel Tenenbaum, a former doctoral student at Boston University who faces a fine of $675,000 for illegally downloading 30 songs.
The court’s inaction means that Tenenbaum will now return to district court in hopes of settling on a smaller fine.
Tenenbaum was sued in 2007 by five record companies: Sony BMG, Warner Bros. Records, Atlantic Records, Arista Records and UMG Recordings. A jury found that he had infringed on their copyrights and imposed statutory damages of $675,000. The trial judge, citing constitutional concerns, reduced the fine by a factor of 10. The companies subsequently appealed to the First Circuit, which reinstated the original fine and asked the district court to use a different process to set the fine in order to avoid constitutional issues. That process will now continue.
“This is where we feel we’re being pushed down a rat hole. The award is lowered but the plaintiffs, the recording companies, are given the option of whether to accept the award or go through another trial,” said Charles Nesson, an attorney at the Berkman Center for Internet and Society at Harvard University, who is representing Tenenbaum free of charge.
“It’s like a way of keeping us in litigation forever,” he said.
Tenenbaum had sought to argue that his downloads constituted “fair use” of copyrighted material, but the trial precluded that claim, saying there was no evidence to support it.
Tenenbaum’s appeal alleged that the Copyright Act, which provides for penalties of up to $150,000 per violation and was written to deter commercial infringements, is not appropriate to use in cases involving individuals.
Nesson said that the $675,000 fine would force Tenenbaum to file for bankruptcy.
Disturbing trend of Obama cult of personality in school system continues
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, May 21, 2012
An audio recording of an exchange between a teacher and a student at North Rowan High School in North Carolina serves as a reminder that the school system is becoming a training ground for teaching kids to be subservient to the state while indoctrinating them into thinking that the First Amendment doesn’t exist.
The clip features a conversation in which teacher Tanya Dixon-Neely tells students that it is a criminal offense to criticize Barack Obama and that they could be “arrested” for doing so.
The discussion centers around a story about Mitt Romney bullying a kid five decades ago. A student responds by pointing out that Obama admits in his own book, Dreams from My Father, that he also bullied a girl when he was in school, and that both Obama and Romney are “just men.”
Dixon-Neely then begins yelling about how “disrespecting the President” is an arrestable offense.
“Let me tell you something, you will not disrespect the president of the United States in this classroom,” she says, adding, “Do you realize that people were arrested for saying things bad about Bush? Do you realize you are not supposed to slander the president?”
The student correctly dispels Dixon-Neely’s nonsense by pointing out that the First Amendment permits the most vigorous criticism of the President.
“You would have to say some pretty f’d up crap about him to be arrested,” says the student. “They cannot take away your right to have your opinion … They can’t take that away unless you threaten the president.”
When the student refuses to be intimidated into agreeing with the teacher, Dixon-Neely states, “OK, do I have to get my cane?”
“As a social studies teacher, I cannot allow you to slander any President,” she adds.
A d v e r t i s e m e n t
According to Breitbart News, “The student had asked his friend to record the discussion to “prove to his parents what he has been trying to tell them for some time. The teacher in this video has a long history of pushing a liberal agenda, by shouting down students. She is very intolerant of other points of view that she does not share. The atmosphere at this school is not very conducive to opposing views.”
The school reacted to the controversy by claiming it represented “a learning experience,” and failed to indicate whether it would take any action against Dixon-Neely for her blatantly misleading and downright dangerous teaching.
As we have previously documented, there are numerous examples where children are being made to chant songs worshipping Obama in schools, perform military-style parades in his honor, or watch propaganda videos about celebrities affirming their allegiance to him.
In September 2009, the White House announced it would stream an Obama speech directly into government schools. The speech was accompanied by lesson plans issued by the Department of Education which instructed teachers to ask children “Why is it important that we listen to the President and other elected officials.”
This was merely a continuation of the cult of personality that has been built up around Obama with the aid of the education system.
This creepy cult-like video showing celebrities pledging their “service” to the Obama government’s global warming agenda was shown in Utah schools.
This now infamous “Obama Youth” video shows students at a middle school in Missouri performing a military style drill while chanting slogans about Obama’s policies.
Children at Sand Hill Elementary School in Asheville, NC recite Obama campaign slogans.
A creepy video of young children in Illinois singing a Maoist-style homage to Obama’s government, chanting “Yes We Can.” A shockingly accurate comparison with the Hitler Youth is made at the end of the clip.
Teenagers in Toronto Canada perform a song for Obama in school.
Shocking video of a teacher forcing children to worship Obama. The kids look largely disinterested.
Black children mindlessly chant for Obama on a school bus.
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Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show and Infowars Nightly News.
I’m in Germany….the Nazi video is blocked….anyone questioning the holocaust can and will be thrown in jail….that goes for most countries in Europe.
hellangone Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 4:31 am
People DID NOT go to jail for criticizing “Dubya” – but, they do get MURDERED (think Breitbart) if they say ANYTHING against osambo.
Aidan Monaghan Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 5:06 am
With so many other U.S. executive agencies complicit in organized criminal activity, one shouldn’t be surprised that a U.S. education system under the control of the Department of Education, would be turned into a society shaping propaganda factory.
The federal government is the global mafia’s most powerful tool for control over virtually everything.
SearsJulio Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 6:12 am
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Quantummonkeybutt Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 6:51 am
My Mom’s Uncle’s Brother’s Dad Used To Kick NAZI ASS All The Way Back To HELL When The FASCIST SCUM Tried To Take Over The World, And He DID IT FOR FREE!!!!!!!
Now He’s Going BROKE Trying To Survive In What’s Left Of America Now That The NAZI PIECES OF SHIT WERE BROUGHT HERE UNDER OPERATION ‘PAPERCLIP’, AND THE
FU&%ERS TOOK OVER OUR COUNTRY!!!!
See More On This Site:
(www.) youtube.com/watch?v=DtXOyOFGiXE
Peace Frog Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 10:01 am
the criminal bush syndicate murdered plenty of people…3000 for starters
Glen Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 4:56 am
Exactly Right, Even SCIENCE is Banned if you want to disprove the Holiday camps.
There are a number of people in prison for doing RESEARCH which showed no evidence of MASS GRAVES or of Zyklon B use in the Reinhardt camps.
Proof of the LIE is Banned.
Shows the ZIONIST SCUM OWNS Europe.
Quantummonkeybutt Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 6:54 am
“…no evidence of MASS GRAVES or of Zyklon B use in the Reinhardt camps.”
Watch The Video I Posted Above, Monkey Boy…And Then Tell Me Again There Is No ‘Evidence’…
If You Do, I’ll Call You A LYING PIECE OF SHIT RIGHT TO YOUR FACE.
QMB
hard
core
Tom Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Holocaust deniers try to say GO FIND THE PROOF THERE NOW, when those places were washed and washed and washed of the evil.
eurisko1 Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 6:16 am
WTF, over? Why has not the School Board taken action against this “teacher”?
billp Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 7:06 am
This ISN’T Germany, this is… Oh never mind.
Peace Frog Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
east…stasi east germany
kebcreation Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 9:08 am
Keep them cameras rolling as Darren Mcbream would say…..the evidence is mounting up. This hero worship is nothing new. I am guessing the teacher must have got the Obama memo loud and clear. Obombya was a bully when younger and he is the same today. Bullying the Congress to vote a certain way bullying them to pass laws not read heck the whole NDAA is a bully tactic. Is this the America those so called educators want for those students? Yes Obombya may as well be Hitler and the teacher the youth camp. Someone would have to be almost completely blind not to see the similarity almost to a tee. Obombya here’s a memo from Joe Sixpack get off our ‘bleepin’ Island and take those worshiper teachers with you. The teacher should be fired by public pressure. All the students in her class ought to ask for a different teacher and not attend that class until it’s done. Better to not be taught a thing if it comes from this teacher….and i choke when i even refer to her as such. If this is the norm our kids are in deep deep trouble.
I banned Hollywood, their celebrities and products since 1998….and much of the commercial music industry to a great extent. Not because they may be full of shit or for Obama…but because of the Jewish agenda and control regarding those industries.
The nazis didnt kill enough jews and fuck you, Mr president of amerikka, Barrysoetoro.
whew !! that feel so good.
Huggles Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 5:31 am
@atouchofgrey
You are trying to discredit American patriots concerned about the loss of their freedom by associating them with your offensive and antisemitic remarks.
It is precisely because of the memory of the Nazis and the Holocaust that we must be concerned about the trampling of the rights of citizens.
The Holocaust was not just a Jewish experience, it was a human experience especially since many of Hitler’s victims were not Jews.
Quantummonkeybutt Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 6:59 am
“OK, do I have to get my cane?”
“As a social studies teacher, I cannot allow you to slander any President,” she adds.
President Monkey Boy (a.k.a. ‘THE BEAST’) Responded:
“Yes We Can!!! Thank You SATAN!!! HEAR MY COMPOSITE-SELF FOR THE PHARAOH ZEUS, BITCHES!!! SUBMIT TO THE MARK THAT’S NOW SOONER!!!”
(www.) youtube.com/watch?v=sgHUZXgNAWo
(YESHUA WARNS SATAN = ‘BARAQ u BAMAH’!)
QMB
i don’t
‘feel’
tardy
stewart087 Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 12:16 pm
@huggles Exactly!
Peace Frog Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
FUBO…keep it simple
General Zan Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
@Huggles, and there were many more killed in the USSR at that time(and before) than were Jews supposedly by Hitler, and they were killed by Russian Jews(Zionist Communist)… Why don’t we hear about them on a daily basis like we do the Hollowcaust(misspelled intentionally). As a matter of fact, over 20-22 million according to historical fact(many Christian, Muslim and other)… Why does the supposed killing of 6 million Jews far outweigh the killing of up to 22 million of other races by JEWS Mr. Huggles???? And why is that so conveniently left out of our children’s history books Mr. Huggles(AND TOM)???
grewuphere Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 5:53 am
Hitler killed the wrong Jews,,,,,,he should have killed the ones he worked for,,and then himself,,
heil Mein Fuhrer, this is straight out of the nazi ideology,
fyi it is Not a criminal offence to criticize it’s called freedom of speech look it up …
Glen Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 4:58 am
Not in the NEW SPEAK Dictionary.
Freedom is LAW
Speech is Silence
Quantummonkeybutt Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 7:18 am
Actually, Glen…
The Jedi Mind Control ‘Trick’ Is Not A ‘Trick’ At All…
We Are ALL “Transmitting And Receiving Bio-Electrical Quantum/Manifested Communication Hubs Formed By Crystalline Mathematical Harmonic Vibration”…
That’s A Mouthful I Admit, But In Other Words, I Can Plant Thoughts Into The Minds Of ‘Weaker’ Individuals By The Simple Process Of Crystal (Molecular Cellular) RADIO Communication…
The Medium Of Communication Ultimately To The Highest And Lowest Vibrations Is The ‘HOLY’ SPIRIT, WHICH IS DYING…
What Is The ‘HOLY’ SPIRIT That Is Dying You Ask???
Simply…Water :(
(www.) youtube.com/watch?v=2_dmYT83ZKY
QMB
what the
bleep you
would like
to know
General Zan Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 6:01 pm
QMB, you are somewhat correct, its called 2.4GHZ, and its all around us from Cell Phones to WiFi to simple home Cordless Phones plugged into landlines… WHY IS THAT? Do some research, you seem to be somewhat good at it!
The kids questioning the teacher were not buying what she was trying to sell. Good for them. They also taped it and put it on youtube. Crafty little devils :)
Ho of Babylon Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 7:50 am
I was actually surprised any had the initiative to argue with her. It’s good to see there are always some to resist indoctrination. :)
General Zan Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 6:07 pm
That teacher couldn’t sell water to a Nomad that’s been in the middle of the desert for 2 months without water. She has to be the MOST ILLITERATE teacher I have ever heard. Her students IQ’s were “SUBSTANTIALLY” higher than hers. She was obviously the end result of RACIAL QUOTA’S in the Educational System, both in learning, and in hiring. Talking about the dumbing down of Americans, she should be the POSTER-CHILD!
This creepy cult-like video showing celebrities pledging their “service” to the Obama government’s global warming agenda was shown in Utah schools.
Utah is mostly Mormon. Please see the Webster Tarpley (Sunday 5-20) interview on the Alex Jones Channel regarding Mormonism and government.
hellangone Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 4:37 am
The LDS is a cult, nothing more.
They retain members whom they consider useful, and toss out the rest.
FXLR 94 Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 4:50 am
You’re a moron. You wouldn’t know a cult if they came and kicked your ass.
AandO Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 2:17 pm
No! He is correct and you are wrong.
He brings this to your attention for your benefit, not his.
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The front cover of your cult manual fairytail book says it all.
The book of morman: Says on the front cover…..
“Another Testament of the Lord Jesus Christ”
In order for a Testament to be in force their must be first the death of the Testator.
Who’s shed blood is greater than Jesus’s?
Man I’d sure hate to be Joe Smith about right now.
Or any other ranking member of the cult of mormon for that matter…….
Tom Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 2:59 pm
AandO — That’s right! I wouldn’t want to be Joseph Smith for anything. And Romney isn’t just a Mormon, he’s a TEMPLE Mormon. The true dark side of Mormonism.
General Zan Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
@hellangone, the Mormons are virtually CLONES(CLOWNS) of the Latter Day Saints and Scientologists. The other Cult that fits right into there very nicely, are the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
These brainwashed Global Marxist Socialist types are really sweating bullets as their common sense struggles to break through the decades of state sponsored brainwashing.
Boy, the jig is really up.
I know that there is a list out there of all of the crap that Barry Soetoro pissed backwards on.
And now with the recent addition of him being listed as born in Kenya in some book and, Arizona kicking him off the ballot until Hawaii produces a legitimate birth certificate it just gets worse for all those young minds who have the seed of curiosity and scrutiny planted in their growing brain.
The real losers are the American voters who searched for a hero and were cut off from Ron Paul and now have only to chose between Bilderburg A and Bilderburg B.
If this were a news story about some other country it would almost be funny.
The joke is on us people.
she sounds like old mr. kommoutski defending stalin as a great hero to the russian people…..
until I had to open my pie-hole and comment that only goes for the ones he did not murder, right?
Or the friends & family members of the people he had killed, right?
After a spit-feckled scream-a-thon and a trip to the office, I had a hard time in that history class for the rest of the year!
Cnsay Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 4:49 am
Hope you paid Mr. Kommoutshi’s house a visit on Holloween night.
Spymyeys Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 5:04 am
now why would a bunch of rotting eggs and shit-stained toilet paper on his house make any difference at all?
Yeah she could not only be a teacher but, your neighbor, family member, sunday school teacher, cafeteria worker, mailman, trash collector……… you get my drift. In the days that follow, what you say (like these students) could cause you to be imprisoned. There will be reward money to turn you in. Watch and see.
If Obummer gets back in we will be going bankrupt and nothing will stop it because he will raise our taxes to the sky with Obummercare.
That should kill the economy too.
I keep hearing all of these rosy forecasts and then mention Europe. We all, especially students, should be free to voice their opinion on the topic of a debt they will be forced to pay, in the Trillions!
I hope they go Icelandic on it.
All I remeber of public school in the 70′s was being forced to use books that had been around since the end of WWII by proof of the printing date on them and most if not all of teachers complaining because they were teaching kids the WRONG things about america, like being a patriot is a GOOD thing (gasp)!
The new books taught how the dirty americans should be ashamed of everything they do and all the teachers were salavating to get their hands onm them and start teaching markism/communism/socializms is the future of amerikka.
but it was PUBLIC school, so nobody gave a shit because there are plenty of factory jobs out there for the under-achievers and……oh wait…..
When I was at school we had a link up with an american school (No computers back then) by phone and letters and we got an exam book to complete that was obviously american and I remember thinking how very different the american way was so very different to what we did and the exam was so easy, sooo easy it was incredible and so basic. We never got the results back as they were apparently “lost in the postal system”. But hey! now we do “proms” so it seems here in the UK they want to reduce our system too.
Now this “teacher” I put that in parenthesis because I wonder if that is the right term for it, she is obviously deeply affected (as the flouride is supposed to do) by the “official word” and threatening students with jail for talking bad and saying the emperor is wearing no clothes means she should be amongst the first to swing from the lamp posts.
Spymyeys Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 5:28 am
oh ya,
merry ole england knows all about the dead mans jig when no guns are allowed any longer!
Spymyeys Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 5:29 am
oh , and dont get the wrong idea, i TOTALLY agree, she should swing, but there are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many more that need immediate attetion before she gets hers….
a-salty-dog Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 6:54 am
‘I remember thinking how very different the american way was so very different to what we did and the exam was so easy, sooo easy it was incredible and so basic. ‘
I had them same thoughts comparing the UK Army Cadet Training Manual and comparing it to the US Army Training Manual.
No wonder the US Army always seems to get its self lost. Apparently back then only US Army officers knew how to use a map and compass.
This political indoctrination would have be completely unacceptable in Scottish schools even if students had the time between studying proper subjects such as mathematics, physics, chemistry geography, history, Latin, music, art, English, engineering science etc.
I guess the American schools haven’t been established long enough to figure this out. i.e. my local High School has been teaching since the middle of the 12th Century so have learned the lessons of the dangers of political indoctrination
a-salty-dog Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 7:08 am
Looking back though at my School days I did once hear my English Teacher once refer to the USA as a B*stard Nation and thought I thought that was an over the top remark and rather a political statement to make. But after hearing Donald ‘MR MKULTA’ Rumsfeld critique ‘Old Europe’ while making a comparison with the ‘New World’ (his thinking about European nations criticism of the Iraq invasion and occupation, my high school English teacher’s remarks began to make perfect sense.
A revolutionary Republic such as the USA since its exception or creation was actually a reasonably well behaved teenager but has since then has turned into a nasty, grumpy and evil old man, which is on its last legs. Unfortunately you cannot turn back the years.
But this was easily predictable even by David Hume (Benjamin Franklin’s Master) in his idea for a perfect commonwealth.
a-salty-dog Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 8:12 am
‘yes we can’ – 3 syllables – (Barry ‘Who ever he is’, er I mean Barack Obama, previous political campaign tag)
Now if we were to have a Ron Paul campaign slogan for the next POTUS dog and Pony show it may be something like this;
‘Freedom, Liberty and personal responsibility for everyone, though Antiestablishmentarianism of the over reaching and intrusive oligarchical centrally planned Federalized Government’
Is there a 2 syllable Political campaign tag – its quite imperative for the next POTUS’s campaign as the Fluoride concentrations on the water supply increase.
They even had to change the title of the book title ‘Harry Potter and the Philosophers stone’ for the US publication.
The Obamanites, the 13th tribe of Zion :)
Or is the Obama youth?
Either way is a cult of personality. In the same way as Mao (who murdered millions and destroyed chinese culture). Stalin (who murdered millions of his own people).
I’m exercising my 1st Ammendment right here – That fake president is a bully, too liberal, a NWO puppet, and a mind control slave. Now, that was non-threatening but truthful.
Good humans of planet earth. The truth must be known so that humanity finally is set free fromthe grasp of these false gods. the religions that have been created to control the minds and masses. and the false political democratie people think is real?
Humans is the result of genetic experiments by advanced civilsation the nephilims.
We are not alone people, other races have been on this planet for also a long long time.
when the Niphilims return, history shows they end there experiments to start a new one. an improved model every time. the 12th planet that has an orbit of 3,600 years is on it’s way back in our part of the galaxie and with it it will bring what we know as the end of A world, ours.
Our collective and individual minds are manipulated to follow beliefs not the truth.
so while the government called the Vatican keeps this truth hidden in there secrets, you can now understand why there is an awakening or there are multiple levels of awakening among the populations.
deep within ourselves, we feel something is about to happen. THose who worship gods or what we humans have been condition to bow too called gods. THey call themselves gods but ain’t gods.
Just an advance civilisation who happens to play with genetics and other advanced technologies.
The reptilians are the ones who have given us our technoloogies.They live in the earth deep down in vaces or what they call there underground cities with technologies created by there own specy.
They have capabilities we do not have like mind controling capabilities.They know how to remain cloaked just by influencing the human brain. We thought we humans were the supreme beings on this planet. think again we are not. We are not alone and never have been.
the truth will rattle the faith of this planet when it is officially revealed.So the puppets you vote fro are nothing else than servants to these entities that control in division this planet.
THere is a war going on on here all right, and a war we humans do not even suspect is going on .
E.T. groups are fighting for this planet and it’s ressources, they care nne about the human race and it’s faith. But there are also good E.T. species that do not want to see any harm to the human race. 65 millions years ago, there was a war that destroyed the dinosaurs and living life on this planet. The E.T’s came from Procyon star system, they were very close to human form and they were at war with the reptilian group that is now been living onder the crust of this panet ever since.
the truth is so hard to swallow for so many of you who still want to believe in a GOD of so much goodness?????? as the events do unfold, disclosure will reveal the truth in the last moments of our lives. 7 billions humans is too much slaves for these creators who like to be served by a maximum of 500 million slaves to mine the ressources of this planet, they need so much specially copper that is used for there advanced technologies and do not forget GOLD and silver and other important ressorces that make up the technologies they create.
OUr history had other advanced humans like our society, we are the seventh version and the nephilims are to return and will probably destroy the 7th version of there creation when they do? for they will fight another war with other E.T. groups who also want the ressources of this planet?
gunsnrosaries Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Vic,
The earth is young, about 10-12,000 years old.
ET is a demon from hell, not an aliend from another planet.
Have you been listening to David Icke a bit too much lately?
THe teacher who yelled at the student is a moron zombi. and TSA has fulll of them also.They have been placed in society in a planned manner good people.It isn’t a coincidence. This is what drugs do the the human brain. IT makes the drug addict a zombi to serve the system. if you cannot see this, well you’re already lost, gone, caput.
Vic Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 7:07 am
drugs = self destruction of the brain and the rest of the human body.
Like credit cards no one foreced the addicts to start taking drugs. Once you try it, well bye bye zombi
Vic Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 7:12 am
bye bye zombi meaning you are at the merci of the drug cartels who in turn work with the banksters to luander that criminaly made money. and who criminalized hemp? not the addicted ones. Can you connect the dots now?????
what was Nixon and Oliver North all about? where does the drugs come from and who cares for it? the good old boys in the military yaaaaa support the troops right?
pathetic no? and to all the good soldiers in that corrupted org, I wonder how thay can remain sain when watching all this go on and they just shut there mouths and let the system go on and on and on. ”meaculpa,meaculpa,meaculpa.
Peace – let me get this straight lessgov is the education system here in Babylon good for everyone except blacks ! WHOM DO U RACIST BASTARDS HATE MORE SO CALLED BLACKS OR THOSE WHOM U KNOW R FUCKING UP THE ENVIRONMENT AND SLOWLY ATTEMPTING TO KILL U AND UR FAMILIES ! LAST I CHECKED WE ARE NOT STEALING UR FREEDOMS AND LIBERTIES ! WE DON’T CALL FOR GLOBAL WARS TO LAST FOREVER ! WE DON’T SPRAY CHEM-TRAILS OVER UR HEAD ! WE ARE NOT INSTITUTING A POLICE STATE WITH PLANS ON LOCKING UR WHITE ASS UP AS WELL AS MINES ! WE DIDN’T INVENT RACISM TO SEPERATE HUMANITY FOR AN EVIL PURPOSE ! LISTEN THE BRITISH HAS NOT FORGOT SO WHILE UR CALLING URSELFS WHITE IN REALITY UR REALLY SUBJECTS OF THE CROWN AND THEY WANT U BACK ! THESE THINGS U KNOW YET U HAVE NO BALLS TO ADDRESS UR REAL ENEMY SO U TAKE IT OUT ON WHO U THINK IS WEAK BLACKS AND PEOPLE OF COLOR ! THAT’S A COWARD ! WAS THE BLACKS IDEA TO FEEL U UP TO TRAVEL NO ! GREAT BRUTISH MASONRY WANTS IT’S CHRISTIAN SUBJECTS BACK ! GROW A PAIR AND GET FREE BITCHES !
Peace Frog Reply: May 21st, 2012 at 9:50 am
you were on a roll until the last word…never insult people you are trying to persuade